In 2 Cor 15:22/45 Paul makes it clear that Jesus came as no.2 as the second Adam. Arets is i. a. the whole planet earth (on which the preadamites spreaded via reproduction), respectively a country/certain area. They were created for a totally different purpose. This seems to be a reference to the Jehovas Witness Bible. What if Cain simply had a twin sister? I cant get worked up over this question. This is usually because of societal taboos or fear of genetic defects. That Cain married his sister or a later female descendant of Adam through the marriage of any of Adams sons or daughters is viewed by some societies today as unthinkable. 54 Academy Award winner Rami Malek 's twin brother works as a teacher, for example . Wake up. So he was himself cursed for cursing his brethren and family. A human cant live over 900 years, thats obviously impossible. Cain and Abel, sons of Adam and Eve, are the first pair of siblings described in the Torah. The early 19th century commentator, Adam Clarke reasoned that both Cain and Abel raised families well before the birth of Seth. It was this form of love that Christ not only restored but elevated on Calvary in the blood and water that flowed from his side, which the Early Church Fathers (see commentaries by St. John Chrysostom 347-407 A.D. and St Augustine 354-430 A.D.), described as the New Eve flowing from the side of the New Adam. Only God knows the truth. Aclima The Mahometan tradition of the death of Abel is this: Cain was born with a twin sister who was named Aclima, and Abel with a twin sister named Jumella. The fundamentalists commenting here complain about theologically liberal materials and that people are not taking the bible literally and that they are denigrating it. As for the ability of generations to pass stories along by mouth and accurately this has in fact been demonstrated by anthropologists studying other cultures not Near Eastern ones. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venus_figurines (Mark 6:20). I believe that Adam and Eve were the first people of Gods creation he went on to create other people. Consider one such story that Paul, being a student of Jewish oral and scriptural tradition would have been familiar with. Cain really got married from the descendants of Adam and Eve but not Immediately he was sent on exile, although he knew that Adam must fulfill the rule to born and fill the world so he went wandering waiting for her soul mate who the spirit of God never cared about as He was not pleased with his devilish act. So, Adam would have come from the animals as well. They intermarry and even I have some HN in me. Urmia & the alleged plain of Edin, right before a land seeming to sound like the Angel guarding the opening from Edin on the East could have been The Garden. Again we find the stark contrast between righteous and evil deeds, just as we have seen before in the contrast between light and darkness (John 3:19-21). The other flowed from Oman and Yemen. Genesis 5:1-3 shows that Genesis 1 and 2 are talking about the same two people. The preadamites descend from the terrestrial animals, as the verb asah in Gen. 1.26 proves. Adam suggested that the question should be settled by each one bringing an offering. I do not find on Amazon. Sometime in the beginning someone had to have sexual relations with his sister for pedigree sake. I usually run into those who try to claim that the Bible teaches and the ancient Jews believed in a flat earth. Abraham, Isaac and Jacob married their own relatives so as to avoid intermarrying non-believers. Not according to the law in Eden, but according the law God made for the heavens. And in Acts 17:26, Paul states that the God who made the world hath made of one blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth.. 2 responses Abraham married his HALF SISTER Sarah ( Genesis 20:12) and GOD agreed it. Perhaps Cain had just thrown together his sacrifice, or maybe deliberately offered the stunted and blighted portions of his crops to the Lord. It was not until Adam and Eve freely chose to rebel against God, that pain and suffering entered into the world, he said. Your claim that ish and ishshah are only used for humans is wrong. I dot not know of dust to dust The ending of Genesis 5:4 does not indicate the timing of the birth of sisters anymore than and was evening and was morning at the end of each creation day, means that they occurred after the events of the day. It is not just that Abel's gift is better than Cain's. It is because Abel is a good man. Natural reproduction is both a coefficient and a product of evolution. http://holybooks.lichtenbergpress.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/Babylonian-Talmud.pdf, Midrash Rabbah, Bereshith, Ch. Recent archaeological and genetic evidence reveals that interbreeding between genetic humans and neanderthals probably began to occur as recently as 50,000BC. All rights reserved. Just smile a lot and get something to eat. Are your uppercase letters supposed to lend credence to your intoxication and cultism brought on by your deep gulping of ancient Judaic mythology? It is likely that Cain married a sister. Especially since Adam and Eve dont belong to the ultimative beginning of mankind. 1 response As a man with a mission as the first son of God. Do what I say, dont do what I dowhich is nothing but tell false stories? Unfortunately human species also became one among the fallen. In the creation Report, that is not the case. that intercourse between such close relatives was specifically forbidden.Leviticus 18:9, 17, 24. With the help of the biblical Genealogie, Adam and Eve can be dated 5500 b. C., the middle of Neolithic period. Lilith, To the liar it talks in lies, to the truthful it speaks truth. John and Carol then had a daughter, Sidney, in the fall of 1966. Therefore the earth, like other heavenly bodies, is suspended in space as if hanging on nothing. of course youre absolutely right. But there is most possible, Adam was not the first humanoid, or that all the diversities of animals fit into one small place not very long ago. TDH. This is a sign that they were other people living on earth. What is being asked in, Who did Cain marry? That is the context. If the Bible is not meant to be taken literally then I assume you also dont believe in a literal God Not sure why you bother becoming a Pastor if you start of with not believing the foundation of the Bible. According to the Bible, Adam and Eve had three sons: Cain, Abel, Seth and additional sons and daughters. Anything could be true with regard to this question. I am disappointed that a scholar would use who when whom should have been used. 26 Let Us make mankind in Our image, according to Our likeness; and let THEM rule. http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0131422 Genesis 4:1-2 describes the birth of the two saying (KJV): "And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the LORD. Please note that isch & ischah have different meanings as zakar & neqebah. MediaPunch Inc/Alamy Stock Photo. As the curse God placed upon creation started to operate only after they sinned, their descendants would not have had many mistakes in their genes. Moses skips 6-9 generations between Kohath and Amram. Cain and Abel both . It does not on its own mean out of nothing. By the time of Abraham, his birthplace, the advanced city of Ur in Chaldea, was a river port. 4. 3 Be not afraid, 0 my son; there is no disgrace in it. National Center for Biotechnology Information, California - Do Not Sell My Personal Information. Acts 4:12. 8 years of Archaeology Odyssey online, exploring the ancient roots of the Western world in a scholarly and entertaining way, The New Encyclopedia of Archaeological Excavations in the Holy Land. Photo: From Charles Foster, The Story of the Bible (1897). There is no way to tell how much time is involved in Genesis 5 and 11. Because the first one failed his task. It says nothing about when or where they met. In Hebrew, dm is even more often understood as mankind than as a male name. I for one do not take lightly mocking God. I hope some people history werent written in the Bible and Cain havent married to his sister. . Thats why he must be born again/born from above. Isaac and his wife Rebekah are the first couple mentioned in the Bible to have twins. Reading any supernatural stuff (fallen angels etc.) It is clear from Genesis 1:26-27 that used adam to mean mankind. The lack of respect in evidence-based science in favor of stories passed along generations trying to figure out the origin of all things is incredible. http://www.scriptural-truth.com/PDF_Apocrypha/Second Book of Adam and Eve.pdf So Adam said to his son Seth, I wish, 0 my son, that thou wed thy sister Im sorry, but I do not understand most of what you wrote. The prophet Isaiah wrote under inspiration: There is One who is dwelling above the circle of the earth, the dwellers in which are as grasshoppers. (Isa 40:22), The Bible says: He [God] has described a circle upon the face of the waters. (Job 26:10) The waters are limited by his decree to their proper place. 4 4. Where did Cain get his wife? BOTH MET AND STARTED HAVING CHILDREN.The Question is WHO ELSE DID JEHOVA OUTSIDE THIS FSMILY????? Would we be asking these kinds of questions about the thousands of other creation myths that are just as fantastical as those in Genesis? I dont know if it has already been mentioned here, but Gen. 1:26/27 and 2:7 are two different events. The worldwide flood destroyed everyone as confirmed in 2 Peter 2 and 3, so comparing the pre-flood civilizations to modern near east cultures that ignore distant settlements is in either disingenuous or ignorant. Instead of loving his Abel, he did the opposite and brutally murdered his brother. Cain was cast out and he went into the land of nod and there he took a wife I mean that is so clear in its meaning and inference most people can get it. If we compare the description of the land of Eden with recent research of the middle east, during the last ice age, we find a match. after arguing about it they both decided that they should marry Report, October 23 2014 I find it amazing that people get so caught up in religious teachings that they dont even want to hear what someone else has to say or accept solid scientific facts. The audience understood the cultural cues and were unconcerned about narrative contradictions and inconsistencies as they had an entirely different way of thinking than us moderns do. Personal names dont appear until the second chapter. As one who is finishing a Masters in Pastoral Theology, I find Leiths question and possible answer, interesting and worth considering, but I would not lose sleep over the right answer. 2. Your numbers are far beyond Scientific Data (old-earth-creationistic Stuff? This goes to the heart of some of the misunderstandings about who Adam and his line was. a flood of tears over his face, and gathered together his children and his Furthermore, recent studies, such as one published in the Journal of Genetic Counseling, show that unions between first cousins face lower risks of having children with birth defects than is widely perceived. Everyone seems to ignore Genesis 5:3-4 (more sons and daughters) and the fact that no time scale is given. Genesis 1:1 introduces the creation of the universe and 1:2 focuses in on the earth in its initial state. At the close of this jubilee Cain was killed after him in the same year; for his house fell upon him and he died in the midst of his house, and he was killed by its stones; for with a stone he had killed Abel, and by a stone was he killed in righteous judgment. With Adam and Eve out of the garden, all activities were outside the garden. People need to understand that the so called Sons of God are not fallen Angels! Nevertheless, her identity is still worth investigating. We are given no indication as to how old Cain was when he killed Abel or when he was married. All ancient tribes have their own origin or creation myths. This is backed up by other passages describing mans authority over the animal kingdom (Genesis 2:19-20, 4:2; Psalm 8:5-8). Share . Adam, Cain, Abraham, Moses- all nicknames. I live from breath to breath 23 And Lamech said to his wives, "Adah and Zillah, listen to my voice. Big letters dont lend credence to obsolete tenets. Christianity.com is a member of the Salem Web Network of sites including: Copyright 2023, Christianity.com. So Can married one of his own sisters. P.S. But we would be ignorant to think that wars are fought only on the backs of religous thinkers. For my part I believe the bible story of creation has scientific and historical support, if you take a critical view of our modern take on long ages. Adam& Eve Only Once. An Arabic tradition F6 records exactly the opposite rivalry. In Genesis 4:1,2, we read, And Adam knew Eve his wife: and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the LORD. If we are incapable of understanding cultural and historical context, then its better to remain silent. 0 responses 9 Those fathers were born during Adams lifetime, and dwelt by the Cave of It centers on the Land of Eden. Access to 50+ curated Special Collections. Cain didnt marry his sister, he got his wife from the land of Nod. Vote Up When Cain went into the land of Nod and took a wife, he married a Gentile, of which there were many in the land outside of Eden. Asked October 21 2014 Vote Up But if we look further we see through biblical evidence that Adam did not begat anymore sons or daughters until Seth. The Persian Gulf did not exist, because of lower sea levels. The theory based on other people living outside the creation of God is totally false. People dont even understand this bible at all. Jubilees 4:9 And Cain took wn his sister to be his wife and she bare him Enoch at the close of the fourth jubilee. Gen.4 gave a random summary of Cains life. That is why we find so much evidence after about 12,000 years ago, but that is not when it all started, nor do we know how widespread it was. Cain is worried about someone finding and killing him, so God gives him a protective mark. Rabbi Isaac said: In respect to the soul (neshamah) that He provides, for [the wicked man] goes and clings to the power of the beasts. She is Nymph . April 07, 2022. Like I said earlier, male and female are each singular as well. Believe the story, no matter if it is true or not. TDH, another thing. Also, as Adam and Eve were created perfect, their genes would have been perfect. It is obvious that there were other children. Cain married his sister. Consider the post Darwinian age. Adam had many children, so marriage was not a problem as mutations only appeared in the time of Leviticus 18:6 (2500 year later) where God prohibited inter-family relations. By the way, this means Eve didnt come from a womb either. The fact that there are similar (not exactly the same) stories/versions of Mans origins around the world among primitive tribes today and before Christian missionaries arrived to teach them the Jewish one, shows that man had one origin. So the real problem is that too few people want to read the bible and believe it literally. The children grew up . Source: Insider . I listed two research papers which pointed these things out. Vote Up Now how old was cain and Able at the time of the incidence? Every dictionary can be Testament to it. There also is some evidence of two additional but now dry riverbeds in the Near East which lends more credibility to the original Adam and Eve story with the four named rivers. No one goes to the Father except through Me! Why did Cain then kill Abel? The verse says nothing about cosmology or science or human origins but the verse does say it is profitable for what the bible indeed is profitable for which is in understanding the nature of God and our relationship to Him, our moral duties to one another and our means of obtaining right relationship to God. Meanwhile he became father to sons and daughters. (One of Adams sons was Cain, and one of Adams daughters must have become Cains wife. Modern mitochondrial eve experiments confirm the timeframe of the biblical Eve. Not because he 'slept' with her.. 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